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Only after it worked — and NOW they want credit.
Up until it actually worked and they saw the public approved, they called going into Pakistan to get OBL ‘crazy’ and ‘frightening.‘ The Republicans and the Fox “News” propaganda machine were fully against it before they were for it.
Even GWB wanted no part of it, saying in September 2006 (probably a year after bin Laden started living in Pakistan): “This thing about . . . let’s put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work.”
But this is something President Obama campaigned on and promised to do:
This is a shorter summary of the post below:
- 2005: Abbottabad compound built — probably when Bin Laden took up residence there.
- September 2006: Emphasis on bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism. Here’s how President Bush explained this Tuesday: “This thing about . . . let’s put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work.”
- September 2010: the CIA presented Obama with a set of assessments that indicated bin Laden could be hiding in a compound in northwest Pakistan. Starting in mid-March, the president convened at least nine National Security Council meetings to discuss the intelligence suggesting that bin Laden was possibly hiding out virtually in plain sight.
- April 29, 2011: After many National Security Council meetings and reviewing the intelligence, Obama gave the order to pursue Bin Laden.
- May 01, 2011: A small SEAL team begins and ends the strike within 40 minutes — and they take custody of OBL’s body.
So…100,000 special forces “stomping through Pakistan” wasn’t really what was needed. At all. We’ll probably never know if Bush was made aware of Bin Laden’s location in Pakistan and whether he chose not to pursue it further. And if Bush didn’t know, then what “intel” was supposedly used in this mission from Team Bush?
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The Bin Laden operation in Abbottabad has been in planning since 2010: the compound caught the attention of intelligence because it had no internet or cell phone signal, which would be unusual for the size and wealth of the place.
In September 2010, the CIA presented Obama with a set of assessments that indicated bin Laden could be hiding in a compound in northwest Pakistan. Starting in mid-March, the president convened at least nine National Security Council meetings to discuss the intelligence suggesting that bin Laden was possibly hiding out virtually in plain sight.
You might find it interesting, because I do, that Osama has probably been in this location in Pakistan since 2005, when the compound was built. So last Friday, Obama gave the order to pursue Bin Laden. In the early hours of Sunday morning, the strike began.
Now take a look at George W. Bush’s pursuit of Bin Laden. From the article “Obama Succeeded Where Bush Failed: Osama Bin Laden Rhetoric And Reality” by Dan Froomkin:
- BUSH RANCH (AUGUST/2001): The unsuccessful attempts to engage Bush culminated in a briefing he got while vacationing on his Texas ranch. As investigative reporter Ron Suskind reported in his book, “The One Percent Doctrine,” an unnamed CIA operative flew to Crawford to call the president’s attention personally to the now-famous Aug. 6, 2001, memo titled Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. “All right,” Suskind reported Bush saying after hearing out the operative. “You’ve covered your ass, now.”
- TORA BORA (DEC/2001): After the invasion of Afghanistan, the Taliban government quickly fell and al Qaeda retreated into the hills. But in December 2001, when bin Laden was unquestionably within reach of U.S. troops in the mountains of Tora Bora, Bush didn’t pull the trigger.
- (2001 – 2004): Then for more than three years, Bush treated bin Laden a lot like the wizards in the Harry Potter books treat He Who Must Not Be Named (Dan Froomkin | WaPo): Since the beginning of 2003, in fact, Bush has mentioned bin Laden’s name on only 10 occasions. And on six of those occasions it was because he was asked a direct question. In addition, there were four times when Bush was asked about bin Laden directly but was able to answer without mentioning bin Laden’s name himself. Not once during that period has he talked about bin Laden at any length, or said anything substantive. During the same period, for comparison purposes, Bush has mentioned former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein on approximately 300 occasions.
- (SUMMER/2005): Bush started invoking bin Laden again — but this time, to win support for his Iraq policy, which was very much on the ropes. “Hear the words of Osama bin Laden,” Bush said, “‘This Third World War is raging’ in Iraq.”
- (2006): on the stump for his fellow Republicans, Bush was citing bin Laden extensively. The president cast bin Laden as the oracular leader of a global movement, and warned of the possibility of an Islamic caliphate ”stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia” — an unsubstantiated fantasy with only one thing going for it: It served the political agendas of both men. Meanwhile, in an Oval Office session that same month, Bush told to a group of conservative columnists that focusing on bin Laden didn’t fit with his military plans. Putting “100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work,” he explained.
- (POST ELECTION/2008): Yet, in his attempts to persuade the voting public of the dangers it faced, Bush gave bin Laden exactly the attention he seemed to crave. After the 2008 presidential election, during which politicians from both parties publicly renounced him, Bush finally admitted some regret in an ABC News interview. “Do I wish we had brought Osama bin Laden to justice? Sure,” Bush said. “But he’s not leading a lot of parades these days.”
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“Thanks to outsized personalities like Sarah Palin and Christine O’Donnell — as well as recent controversies over immigration and Islam — this year’s midterm elections have attracted more international attention than usual. But as this survey of the foreign press shows, each country seems to have its own unique take on America’s anti-incumbent movement.”
- Not surprisingly, like a majority of Americans, the media in other countries describe the Tea partiers as … insane in so many words: bigoted, Quran-burning extremists, polarizing, an embarrassment and threat to the U.S., angry conspiracy-theorists, and the “Party of No” are just some of the descriptions that have been used internationally.
But the best description comes from an Argentinian correspondent who was dispatched to cover Palin-approved, Tea Party endorsed Christine O’Donnell. The correspondent wanted to “figure out how someone who is “uneducated, unemployed, having a history of tax evasion, who used to practice witchcraft when she was young, who militantly fought masturbation, and who now defends creationism, could unseat the incumbent Republican.“
And, maybe also not a big surprise, Germany seems to be fully on-board with the Tea Party and Herr Beck.
Well Pakistan, it looks like taking the Taliban in and giving it aid and comfort after Afghanistan got too hot for the group wasn’t such a good idea after all, huh?
- Watch RAND PAUL dodge a Fox News reporter in his own studio
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- AUDIO: Wow! DR LAURA is an asshole!
- About 1.2 million uninsured New Yorkers could get health care coverage under FEDERAL HEALTH REFORM, according to a study released today.
- WIKILEAKS founder Julian Assange said his organization is preparing to release the rest of the secret Afghan war documents it has on file.
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- STEPHEN HAWKING says that if humanity is going to survive in the long run, we must escape our planet.
- Some advice for COMCAST customers: if you want to keep your comcast.net e-mail address when significantly changing your services, you should mention this sometime during the process.
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- Russia bans grain exports because of fire and drought, sending prices soaring
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- The nation’s manufacturing sector has now grown for a solid year, and more of its companies say they’re ready to hire.
- What’s wrong with the Democratic Party? Voters like Ed Schultz. I guess he couldn’t have been too upset about how the 2000 election turned out. Or as John Cole says, “he certainly wouldn’t have the brass balls to bitch about the Republican House and Senate after sitting out the election and advocating others do the same, would he?”
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- Six teenagers from at least two families drowned in the Red River in northwest Louisiana yesterday.
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- President Obama signed a bill Tuesday reducing the disparity in penalties for the use of crack and powder cocaine: Rep. John Conyers said crack mandatory sentences had pushed the number of drug offenders in federal prisons from fewer than 5,000 in 1980 to nearly 100,000 in 2009.